Mr. Shorter has a body of unique and definitive compositions, sophisticated in melody and harmony, done in the rhythm of jazz. His music has been the centerpiece of three definitive forces in jazz…
To me, jazz means: I Dare You!” says 81-year-old NEA Jazz Master and living legend Wayne Shorter.
Wynton Marsalis points out that Mr. Shorter has a body of unique and definitive compositions, sophisticated in melody and harmony, done in the rhythm of jazz. His music has been the centerpiece of three definitive forces in jazz: Art Blakey, Miles Davis, and Weather Report. Mr. Shorter is also one of the giants of jazz improvisation, with a haunting, lyrical sound and a keen depth of harmonic perception in his playing – perhaps the best in the world.
In this exclusive interview with Shorter, a Buddhist, he explains the magic of performing on stage: “It’s getting to know each other and working on a lot of other stuff that the nations [of the world] should work on. The whole thing is about trust. Jazz is dealing with respect for one another and keeping what you call the ‘ego’ in check…making the ego work for you for the better of all, rather than all working for the ego. The ego becomes an ally rather than a director.”
We hope we can inspire people of other professions to check out improvisation, where you have to make decisions based on trust and the heart. It makes it more difficult to ‘rely’ when you improvise. If we don’t improvise, someone else will. You are to be fearless. The challenge is to fear nothing. And to know that fear is tricky; sometimes there’s a lot of laughter and humour that hides the fear that is lurking. A lot of joking and laughing gives the impression that everything is going to be all right. As with instant gratification, if you get what you want too fast, it gets out of proportion. We all have to study more about what we are. Being in the moment has a lot to do with it.”
Shorter does not think like the rest of us. His mind searches the universe for answers. His thoughts are not limited to this material world. It takes some getting used to. His thought process is refreshing and challenging. “People go to war with music; with the blare of the trumpets and the beat of the drums and the physical celebration of going to war. Music is not the thing that soothes the savage beast. Music is a double-edged sword.
People get touched by all kinds of stuff. Some people get touched by the familiar. I like to see more people reaching across the aisle. (laugh) Reaching across the great expanse that divides. And examining their own perception of what they think life is supposed to be…and discovering that their perception is very limited…not right or wrong, but just limited. We have to go beyond limits.”
Having worked with his current quartet since 2001, the group has become a family. “Now everyone is married and has family,” he says. “What we do on the stage extends into the home. We are family.” The Wayne Shorter Quartet consists of Danilo Perez (piano), John Patitucci (bass), and Brian Blade (drums).
I caught up with Wayne on the phone in his hotel room in Poland. He was performing that day with the Polish National Radio Orchestra. He says that performing with orchestras is familiar territory. For example with the Jazz at Lincoln Center Orchestra, he says, “There will be moments where we can all agree on something. It will be open-ended in some instances. We should be able to challenge enough to traverse and move freely among the elements. That’s a challenge…to move through the elements instead of becoming too rigid to hold on to every handle you can grab onto within an arrangement. An arrangement should be something to travel through, not to stay within. A lot of it has to be based on ‘there’s no such thing as a ‘mistake.’ The same with life; nothing should be thrown away and nothing should be wasted…to strive to not be destructive and intrusive.”
He continues speaking in parables, “Let’s go outside, and ‘outside’ becomes the playground. Outside of the limitations of what is supposed to be accepted and mandated as form.”
Shorter explains that the whole point of playing music is to have fun. “In jazz music, it’s the people. Have fun with the people. And have fun with the people that are not here: Beethoven, Mozart, Tchaikovsky, and all those guys. Celebrate all the people, not just music – celebrate architects, scriptwriters, novelists, all that stuff! And what the astronauts are doing now…the multi-universe.
Sometimes you have to go a long way to shake hands with ourselves. You have to go a long way to walk across the street and say hello to somebody that doesn’t look like you at all. Our perception is so limited, it takes a long time to get things out of the way.”
Master musician Wayne Shorter concludes with the simple, yet profound statement that life and music are “…another element of what is mystically unknowable – because there is no such word as ‘what’ or ‘why’ – there is no beginning or end. It is to continue. We’re just gonna have some fun, that’s all!”
Scott H. Thompson is an internationally published writer and jazz publicist.
Photo credits: Wayne Shorter FB Page
About Scott Thompson
Thompson served as Assistant Director of Public Relations for Jazz at Lincoln Center in New York for almost a decade. With a background in broadcast journalism, Thompson’s voice and work has been heard on the Associated Press Radio Network, the Mutual Broadcasting network and NBC-AM New York, on The Morning Show. His experience spans radio, television, print and the internet. Thompson co-produced the New Haven Jazz Festival from 1994-2000.
A prolific writer, Thompson has contributed to DownBeat, JazzTimes, Jazziz, and the All Music Guide. He penned the CD liner notes to Herbie Hancock Head Hunters, Weather Report 8:30, George Duke Brazilian Love, Stan Getz The New Collection, The Essence of Maynard Ferguson, and The Essence of Al DiMeola.
Scott is one of the original members of
the Jazz Journalists Association.
His original article was published on PlayBill.
Editor’s note: JazzinEurope is very pleased to make the connection with Scott and values his enthusiastic support with
his new curated and revised column for us on
“Across the Pond”.
Last modified: April 25, 2020